Specification
Product Details
- Amazon Sales Rank: #36586 in Home Improvement
- Brand: Makita
- Model: LCT209W
- Number of items: 1
- Dimensions: 11.00" h x
10.75" w x
7.75" l,
9.00 pounds
Features
- Variable 2-Speed 3/8" Driver-Drill (0-350 & 0-1,300 RPM) delivers 200 . of Max Torque in an ultra compact size of only 2.2 lbs.
- Variable speed Impact Driver (0-2,400 RPM & 0-3,000 IPM) provides 800 . of Max Torque in an ultra compact design at only 2.0 lbs.
- Makita 12V max Lithium-Ion batteries provide longer run time and lower self-discharge
- The charger earned the ENERGY STAR® label for meeting the strict energy-efficient guidelines set by the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and US Department of Energy (DOE)
- 3-year warranty on tools and 1-year warranty on batteries and charger
Product Description
LCT209W Features: -Driver combo kit.-Ultra compact design.-Lithium ion batteries provide longer run time and lower self-discharge.-0.38" Driver drill.-Variable speed impact driver provides 800 lbs of max torque. Specifications: -12 Volts. Dimensions: -Dimensions: 11" H x 10.75" W x 7.75" D.
Customer Reviews
Most helpful customer reviews
17 of 19 people found the following review helpful.
By Ehren E. Turner
I do division 10, 11, and 12, which involves a lot of drilling through tile, structural steel, wood, gypsum wall board, HDPE, phenolic resin, stone, and concrete in order to install grab bars, accessories, bathroom partitions, whiteboards, handrails, blinds, signs, and the like.Working with phenolic resin in particular lately, I've been breaking a lot of torx bits- the stuff has no give whatsoever- and my co-worker managed to break off the head of a bolt today with his 1200 in/lb 18v Makita impact. Using this 800 in/lb 12v impact in the same stuff may have yielded an advantage toady. I was able to drive everything home- maybe a second or two more slowly- but it was also harder to overdo, and in some cases, impossible- the impact maxed at around the physical limit, instead of continuing to hammer away at the impossible. I wouldn't call this an unmitigated bonus, since I'm sure there will be instances where the extra power will be needful, but phenolic resin is just about as bad as it gets. We hate the stuff.I also drilled more than two inches into marble and concrete with a masonry bit using the drill. It didn't complain.The very best thing about these is that they're powerful enough to do just about everything I need to do with them (we have plug-in impact hammers for hard ceramic and concrete), but they cost half as much as the 18v kit.I don't like that they don't have hooks on them, and I just ordered some small holsters for them. I think that will actually work better than hooks. On the other hand, they fit into tool pouches nicely, even through a hammer-hanger, and are so light that I can wear them around without wanting to drop them off. This is a MAJOR BONUS. They're also extremely light in the hand.As for battery life- the L-ion batteries that ship with these are rated at 14 Watts. If you calculate based on 10.6 volts, that gives you 1.32 amp hours. If 12 volts, then 1.41 amp hours. After seeing them in action, that seems about right. Makita's ambivalence about the voltage rating is doubtless the reason why these don't have an amp hour rating listed. I'm accustomed to using the 3 amp hour batteries, and very often getting between one and three days of light work or half a day of constant use out of them.These batteries don't have enough capacity to get me through the average day, but they charge fast enough to make up for it- at least as fast as I'm ever likely to deplete them. Today I did lose some of the potential gains in efficiency due to their lightness and compactness by swapping batteries in and out of the charger, moving the battery back and forth between tools, and even grabbing a battery off the charger that had only been on for a few minutes (and sometimes not having access to outlets at all). The only problem is that that generally takes me to a point where both batteries are depleted at around the same time. The ideal solution would be to have two extra batteries and two chargers, or- at the very least- one extra battery. But one battery goes for $47. I paid $99 for the whole kit (both tools, two batteries, and the charger). There's no way I'd buy a single battery for almost half the cost of two... plus a charger... plus an impact... plus a drill. So I just now ordered another kit, also for $99.It may well work against me in the long run to have to do a lot of charge-discharge cycles- quite a few more than with the 3 Ah batteries I'm use to. And these may wear out sooner due to operating closer to their maximum output more often. I'm not guessing that they will at a rate that makes me regret the decision. *I really like how light they are.* And I'm really not worried about them having less horsepower than the 18v tools. I always have access to more powerful tools if I need them.Again, the greatest advantage is that they're so incredibly easy to have in-hand and on-hand, which I expect will improve workflow and lower the risk of repetitive stress injuries. And even if they only last half exactly half as long per tool, I'm still ahead of the game because, for less than the cost of an 18v kit, I have four tools instead of two.For what they are, and what they can do, they really deserve five stars. Especially for what I paid. As usual, I'll update this review if I change my mind.
14 of 16 people found the following review helpful.
By E. Redifer
This kit is a real bargain at the currently advertised price (as of this writing).I buy many tools on Amazon, but I didn't buy these on Amazon - I was in one of the big box stores looking for replacement batteries for my milwaukee M12 drill/driver and impact - Then I determined I could get this Makita kit with two batteries and the cool aluminum case for just a few dollars more than two new M12 batteries - so I brought them home. I've now been using them around the house for a month or so, so I have a good feel for how they work.I also own the latest version Bosch tools in this same size, and as mentioned the Milwaukees (see my reviews of the other brands here on Amazon)- so I can compare all three of them, so here goes:How do these Makitas stack up? Pretty well. I would rate them between the Milwaukee tools (which are the oldest design of the current crop) and the Bosch tools in speed a power. They are faster and more powerful than Milwaukee, but slower and less powerful than the latest Bosch tools. However this is not really a big negative for Makita or Milwaukee - any of these sets of tools are very handy for their intended use, and can get the job done.All three of these sets that I own - Milwaukee M12, Bosch 12v and now these Makita 12V's are great for DIY around the house. They are so small and light and easy to handle that they get used a lot. Good for drilling small holes in the wall or in wood to hang a picture frame or a mirror - great for driving a dozen or a couple dozen screws in a repair job. Good for disassembling electronics or car interior screws and nuts.They are not intended for heavy duty use. You are not going to put in a deck with these units - well, you could do it, but the tools will struggle and you'll be charging the batteries a lot - go for a conventional 12v-18v tool for that job. You can't disassemble an engine with the impact gun. They are going to struggle to drive 3 inch lag bolts, and forget about drilling a hole into steel - sheetmetal maybe.Size and ergonomics-wise these Makitas feel very similar to the Milwaukees - which I like very much, and I like both of them better than the Bosch tools, which are more compact, but a bit more clunky in my hand.Features: I like the Milwaukees better than both the Bosch and these Makitas for a single reason: the battery gauge. It's so useful in this size, I'm amazed that Makita left it off. Bosch chose to put the battery gauge on the impact, but not on the drill/driver - I have no idea why. Color - well these makitas are black and white - which makes them show dirt and grime on the white part, and hide in on the black. They clean up good, but I use these tools hard and get them dirty. I probably prefer the Bosch blue and the Milwaukee red over this Makita white - but that's a nit - not really a show stopper. LED lighting - well I never even noticed it on Milwaukees and then then I noticed it on my Bosch tools, but it wasn't very useful. On these Makitas however it is finally a useful feature - the LED light stays on for a few seconds after you stop the tool - and it's quite bright - I actually use it to locate the bit in dark conditions - Makita is the clear winner here. I really like the Makita keyless Chuck on the drill/driver - it's very convenient and accurate and tightens very easily. To be fair, however both Milwaukee and Bosch offer a keyless chuck version of the drill/driver and I've only used the Hex version.Speed and power wise, Bosch wins in a comparison test over this Makita set, and the Makita is better than Milwaukee. I've never had the Bosch struggle to drive a screw, but I've bogged this Makita down a couple times. The Milwaukee seems to slow down a lot under load, but continues to slowly grind out, where the Makita will stall, and the Bosch will just power through. The Bosch tools have a quirky hesitation when you first pull the trigger, which I don't really like - these Makitas, and the Milwaukee tools don't have it, and it makes me feel that they can be used with a bit more precision.Battery life: Uh-oh, this is where I see a big difference. For some reason the batteries on these Makitas seem to be short lived. I've recharged them more in the past week of heavy use, than I ever recharged either the Bosch or the Milwaukee set. And I see a more pronouced power drop off in the Makita impact than I ever noticed from either Bosch or Milwaukee. Perhaps Makita cheaped out on the battery cells and that's why they can offer such a good price. I'm glad I have two batteries in the set - if I only had one battery, this would be a frustrating problem.The case on this Makita set is really nice aluminum with plastic trim unit - with a lot of room for the tools - personally I would never use it for the drill and driver - they sit in my toolbox or actually on the workbench most of the time. I took the toolbox and cut up the foam so it holds some of my best toolmaker precision tools - fantastic. The Bosch tools came with a nearly useless fitted nylon case - which is taking up space on a shelf somewhere. The Milwaukees came with a nice small nylon toolbag, which I use for some air tools.Another decision factor is what other tools are available in the tool line to share the batteries. In this category Milwaukee is the clear winner. They have dozens of other tools you can buy for the M12 line - everything from the hacksall, to the excellent rotary tool, to the M12 heated jacket. Milwaukee also offers the M12 XC battery pack - which offers a pretty good improvement in battery life and power for the tools - at the expense of compactness and light weight.Bosch also has a growing line of tools and probably offers 10 -15 tools with their line. Makita I see has a few tools in addition to the drill/driver - a vibrating multitool, a mini circular saw - which I am a bit skeptical about - and a small recip saw. I don't think either Bosch or Makita offers anything like the Milwaukee XC battery.In case you were wondering - the battery packs of all three of these brands are almost identical - I say almost, because even though they are almost exactly the same size and shape, none of them are interchangeable - you have to stick with the battery for your brand of tool. They all operate on three 3.6 volt 18650 Lithium Ion rechargeable cells (which means the tools aren't actually 12 volts - they are actually 10.8 volt tools, and also means you can rebuild the batteries when it comes time to replace them. ).Sorry for the long review - so what's the verdict on this Makita set? Solid performer and excellent value, but a little disappointing on battery life. If I had all three tool brands sitting in front of me ready to use? If I needed power or speed I'd definitely go with the Bosch tool. If I knew the batteries were fully charged and I had an average job, I'd pick up this Makita for its speed and ergonomics. If I wasn't sure if the batteries were charged - I'd go for the Milwaukee and check the battery gauge.Really the differences between these 12v brands is small enough that I wouldn't hesitate to own any of them. I like the price and the ergonomics of these makita tools, but not the battery life. I like the variety of tools in the Milwaukee line and the battery gauge feature. I like the speed and power of Bosch.Because of the lack of the battery gauge, and the - perceived, by me - shorter battery life - I rate the Makita set 4 stars, where I rated both Bosch and Milwaukee 5 stars - but the pricing of this set cannot be ignored - these are very good tools and an excellent value.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful.
By Jawn
I already had the Makita LCT208W 12-Volt max Lithium-Ion Cordless 2-Piece Combo Kit (which has the FD02 drill and SH01 saw) and wanted an impact driver to go with it. When this kit including the DT01 impact driver and FD02 drill came up for the same price as the impact driver kit alone, I figured "why not?". I'll either resell the extra FD02 or just keep it for a spare (for larger projects where I am not working alone).I wrote a short review of the LCT208W kit where I said "The drill/driver is plenty powerful, yet compact and easy to use. The built-in LED light is handy, and stays on for a few seconds after you let off the trigger". It has continued to work well for me. Battery life in the drill is good. It'll sling a decent size drill bit, but you may need to use the "1" gearbox setting. Beyond that, I'll focus on initial impressions of the impact driver. It is a bit smaller than the drill due to the lack of a speed switch or torque limiting device. Speed control with the trigger is easy. My initial test included some 1/4" lag bolts into pine 2x lumber, #8 wood screws (which it will keep driving into the wood well after they "bottom out"), rusty old bolts holding tiedown cleats on the side of my truck, and some mangled/rusty screws holding the jaws onto an old Columbian vise. I had tried before to get the vise jaws out and did nothing but cam out of the screw heads. This impact driver (with some forward pressure to prevent cam-out) knocked the screws out like they were nothing. I think this will come in handy when working on my rusty old truck. :)Not sure why a previous reviewer says these are flimsy. They feel solid to me.
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